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MessaggioInviato: mar mag 24, 2011 5:51 pm 
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salve a tutti,
devo redigere un elaborato planimetrico perché ho annesso una corte esclusiva ad un appartamento e non so da dove iniziare.
ne avevo fatti altri ma, nei casi precedenti, avevo tutti i dati necessari peché erano frazionamenti di appartamenti che prendevano tutto il piano dell'edificio ed ero io a dare i nuovi sub ai vari appartamenti.
in questo caso l'unica planimetria che ho, quella dell'u.i. che sto variando, copre solo una minima parte dell'area del piano, oltre alla planimetria ho l'estratto di mappa dal quale posso vedere la sagoma del fabbricato e la forma della particella ma non so altro sui sub che compongono l'intero piano. qualcuno può aiutarmi a capire come posso disegnare l'elaborato planimetrico? voi come fate?


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MessaggioInviato: mar mag 24, 2011 9:27 pm 
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ciao, la risposta è semplice... non fare l'elaborato, in quanto non necessario. saluti gk


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 Oggetto del messaggio: Re: elaborato planimetrico
MessaggioInviato: mer mag 25, 2011 9:25 am 
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luka ha scritto:
ciao, la risposta è semplice... non fare l'elaborato, in quanto non necessario. saluti gk

ciao luka, grazie per la risposta.
perché dici che non devo fare l'elaborato planimetrico? ho chiesto info in catasto e il tipo mi ha detto che era necessario..
ti spiego bene il caso:
il mio cliente deve acquistare l'appartamento da un parente e si è accorto che nella planimetria catastale non figurava un piccolo giardino che è sempre stato unito all'abitazione e figura anche nel precedente atto di compravendita con tanto di misure approssimative. il tipo in catasto mi ha detto che devo fare una variazione per ampliamento per annessione di corte esclusiva. mi ha fatto prenotare un nuovo sub e mi ha detto di mettere in soppressione 1 (il vecchio sub senza giadino), in costituzione 1 (il nuovo sub) e di fare l'elaborato planimetrico. a questo punto la domanda sorge spontanea: in quali casi deve essere fatto questo benedetto elaborato? e in questo caso particolare?

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MessaggioInviato: mer mag 25, 2011 1:28 pm 
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riflettendoci, se cancello un sub per costituirne un altro l'elaborato dovrebbe essere obbligatorio, vero?
non ho mai richiesto elaborati planimetrici, se vado in catasto a chiederlo cosa serve per averlo? gli elaborati plan. esistono di ogni particella?


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Io credo che l'elaborato sia più che necessario, obbligatorio direi, in quanto ogni qual volta si sopprime e si crea qualcosa (almeno nella mia provincia) lo è.
Se usi geoweb è possibile richiedere l'elaborato planimetrico e l'elenco subalterni così come sono registrati in data odierna, fai attenzione che potrebbero non essere in scala corretta (solitamente 4,7 cm = 10m, ma non sapendo in che regione sei controlla tu ;) ). In altri casi puoi andare all'AdT di competenza e richiederli. Se sono inesistenti ti conviene disegnare la sagoma presa dalla mappa e indicare "a.u.i." e lasciare vuoto la zona su cui non lavori.


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ecco che appena si ha una certezza un istante dipo la si vede crollare.
sono tornata in catasto, ho richiesto l'elaborato planimetrico che mi interessava e non c'era, poi ho chiesto a tre persone diverse come dovevo comportarmi e ovviamente ho ottenuto 3 risposte diverse. alla fine disperata sono andata dove si condegnano i docgfa per appuntamento e ho avuto chiarezza! l'elaborato planimetrico, come diceva giustamente luka, in questo particolare caso non va fatto!!! bravo luka! ...e grazie.
così adesso sopprimo un sub e ne costituisco uno nuovo con la corte esclusiva, allego il contratto di compravendita e fine. spero. vi terrò informati.

ma ritornando al quesito iniziale: una poveretta che vuole fare le cose per bene e che vorrebbe anche studiarsi le regole in modo da non dover elemosinare consigli a destra e a manca a quali regole deve appigliarsi? accetto suggerimenti. :)


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Grazie dell'informazione. Anche se non capisco il perchè non debba essere fatto l'elaborato se sopprimi e ricostituisci, lavorando soprattutto con la corte :S Senza contare che chi lavora dopo di te non ha un elaborato corretto. Illuminatemi :D


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ciao a tutti, la regola è quella di redigere l'elaborato planimetrico quando si variano le porzioni comuni, quindi i BCNC. alcune agenzie richiedono tale elaborato anche per la semplice fusione o unificazione di unità. il mondo è bello perchè è vario o avariato come diceva qualcuno. saluti gk


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Ah ecco, cominciavo ad avere dubbi sui pilastri del catasto :D grazie Luka sempre molto gentile :clap: :clap:


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